Ramayana era based on planetarium software
Source: Pushkar Bhatnagar, 2004, Dating the Era of Lord Ram, Delhi, Rupa and Co.
Rama was born on the Navami tithi of Shukla Paksha of Chaitra masa(9th day of the increasing phase of the moon in the lunar month of Chaitra).At that time, the nakshatra was Punarvasu, and Sun, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and Venus were in Aries, Capricorn, Libra, Cancer and Pisces respectively. Lagna was Cancer and Jupiter & Moon were shining together. — Ramayana 1.18.8,9
The conditions can be summarised as follows:
1. Sun in Aries
2. Saturn in Libra
3. Jupiter in Cancer
4. Venus in Pisces
5. Mars in Capricorn
6. Lunar month of Chaitra
7. 9th day after New Moon
(Navami Tithi, Shukla Paksh)
8. Moon near Punarvasu Nakshatra
(Pollux star in Gemini constellation)
9. Cancer as Lagna
(Cancer constellation rising in the east)
10. Jupiter above the horizon
The observations on the left, when entered into Planetarium software gives us the above Sky Chart, which in turns gives forth the below mentioned date.
Sri Rama Navami - 10th January 5114 BCE - Birth Day of Rama
Observation at 12.30 p.m.
Birth of Bharatha
The Sky Chart of Bharatha’s birth is depicted on the right.
This is about 16 hours after birth of Rama.
Birth of Bharatha - 11th January 5114 BCE, 4.30 a.m.
Pre coronation eve
King Dashratha to his courtiers - “This month of Chaitra is beautiful and holy. The woods and trees are full of flowers. At this time coronation of Rama is most appropriate.” — Ramayana 2.4.21-22
“Astrologers have told me that my nakshatra has been surrounded by malefic planets like Sun, Mars and Rahu. Under such planetary configurations, the king either dies or falls in some deep conspiracy. Thus, before I face any such problem, you take over the kingship” — - Ramayana 2.4.18
“Today the moon is on Punarvasu nakshatra and tomorrow it will meet the Pushya nakshatra. In that Pushya nakshatra, I am eager to hand over the kingdom to you.” — - Ramayana 2.4.21-22
Planets located together in Pisces constellation 4th January 5089 BCE
Khar, Dushan episode
Surpanaka, after her nose-cut encounter with Lakshmana at Panchavati (Nasik), goes straight to her brothers Khar and Dushan, and instigates them to fight against Rama and Lakshmana to avenge her insult. At the behest of Surpanaka, their sister, Khar and Dushan come to engage Rama and Lakshmana in a fight.
The descriptions of Valmiki can be read below.
Valmiki:
“In the middle of his army, Khar, was looking like Mars in the middle of the planets in the sky”.
“When Khar moved with his army towards Rama for the battle, a red coloured evening appeared to be descending all over.“ - Ramayana: 3.23.1
“The sun was covered by a dark coloured disc that had red coloured corners.“ - Ramayana: 3.23.3
“Although it was daytime, it started appearing to be evening.“ - Ramayana: 3.23.9
“The sun was caught by Rahu because of which the sun lost its glow and brightness. Various animals and birds started making noises as if it was dusk.“ - Ramayana: 3.23.12
Khar told Rama - “I want to say many things about my prowess but I would not, because if in the `meanwhile sunset occurs, there would be a break in the battle.“ - Ramayana: 3.29.23
Solar Eclipse description
1. Planets, visible to unaided eyes are
East to West - Saturn, Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter.
2. Mars was in the middle of this chain.
3. Rarely, all the planets are in the day sky.
4. Rarer is Mars in the middle of them.
5. The occurrence of a solar eclipse at that time makes it absolutely unique.
These are some of the rarest of the rare astronomical events, which got recorded because of their uniqueness.
The Solar eclipse on 7th October 5077 BCE reached maxium coverage for Panchwati at 15.10 hours. The Sky Chart on the left shows the configuration at 2.00 p.m. with the Latitude / Longitude for Panchwati
Vali Vadham “Hearing the roar of Sugreev, Vali’s face became red like the sun caught by Rahu during the eclipse.” - Ramayana 4.15.3 “Vali Vadham” occured on 3rd April 5076 BCE during the Solar Eclipse, in the Amavasa Ashada during the morning hours.
Hanuman’s Visit to Lanka
Hanuman’s Visit to Lanka - 12th September 5076 BCE - Lunar Eclipse
The eclipsed moon rose in the eastern sky. It was not a total lunar eclipse. The place of observation is Lanka
Hanuman’s Return from Lanka
Hanuman’s Return from Lanka - 14th September 5076 BCE
Observation at 6.30 a.m. The Sun and Moon are shining together. Mars & Jupiter are shining. Also seen Pushya Cancer Swati Virgo Airavat elephant of Indra corresponds to Scorpio.
Army march to Lanka
The Vanara Army march to Lanka - 20th September 5076 BCE
Lakshmana’s observation : “The Venus has gone to the back side, Sapta-rishi (Ursa Major) are visible brightly, Trishanku (Crux) is visible in front. Moola nakshatra, protector of Rakshasa, is inflicted with Dhumra-ketu (node).”
Notes:
Actual dates of the life
time of Lord Rama
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:43:18 -0000
From: “Pushkar”
Subject: Actual dates of the life time of Lord Ram
Namaskar
My name is Pushkar Bhatnagar, a resident of New Delhi.
I would like to share a few factual details about the life of Lord Rama through this mail. In case you are interested in knowing about the actual dates of the happening of various events during the life time of Lord Rama - please continue to read. I have found the precise dates of happening of various events during the lifetime of Lord Ram from his birth to the age of 39 years when he returned from 14 year’s exile.
Maharishi Valmiki, who wrote Ramayana, was contemporary of Lord Ram. While narrating the events of lifetime of Lord Ram, Valmiki has incidentally mentioned the position of planets in the sky at different places. For instance, the position of all the planets (visible with unaided eye) has been mentioned for the date of birth of Lord Ram. Later, while mentioning that Lord Ram was sent to exile for 14 years on his 25th birthday, the position of planets in the sky has been mentioned again for that day. Moving forward, it has been stated that on the amavasya (no moon day) of the 10th month of the 13th year of his exile he fought a battle with Khar and Dushan and on that day a solar eclipse was seen from Panchwati. Not only a solar eclipse occurred but the planets were arranged in the sky in a particular manner. Going ahead, he mantions that six months later when Ram killed Bali on the Amavasya of Ashad of the 14th year of exile, another solar eclipse was visible in the morning sky and after five months when Hanuman went to meet Sita at Lanka, a lunar eclipse was witnessed in the evening. Besides these several other planetary positions have also been mentioned at different other places.
It is imporatant to know that planetary positions keep changing every day in the sky and they do not repeat for Lakhs of years!! Moreover, if we know the position of all the planets in the sky, then they refer to one and only one date in history.
The effort to provide dates to the planetary positions mentioned in Ramayana and other vedic literature began with legendary Bal Gangadhar Tilak in his well known book ‘Orion’. However, the efforts made so far were based on manual computations. Since one revolution of these planets is completed in a highly complex fractional number, it is difficult to arrive at the accurate day and time in history. But in late 90s many software were developed to track the position of planets in the sky and with these software, planets’ position at any given point of time in the sky can be known.
By using a powerful planetarium software, I found that the planetary positions mentioned in Ramayana for the date of birth of Lord Ram had occurred in the sky at around 12.30 p.m. of 10th January 5114 BC. It was the ninth day of the Shukla Paksh of Chaitra month too. Moving forward, after 25 years of the birth of Lord Ram, the position of planets in the sky tallies with their description in Ramayana. Again, on the amavasya of the 10th month of the 13th year of exile the solar eclipse had indeed occurred and the particular arrangement of planets in the sky was visible. ( Date comes to 7th October 5077 BC). Even the occurrence of subsequent two eclipses also tally with the respective description in Valmiki Ramayan. (Date of Hanuman’s meeting Sita at Lanka was 12th September 5076 BC). In this manner the entire sequence of the planetary positions gets verified and all the dates can be precisely determined.
The entire dating has been conducted objectively because the software does not permit any manipulation and the verses of Ramayana are also free of any doubts. Leading scientists and those in this field have appreciated this work. Since the entire sequence tallies, it proves that all the observations in theRamayana were actual recordings and not conjectures.
The indologist suggested that I should have some archaeological evidence in support of these dates because for western historians these dates are too old to be accepted! By god’s grace I came across an interesting archaeological evidence also and I give it’s details in forthcoming paras.
About a few months back NASA had photographed an ancient bridge like structure between India and Sri Lanka and stated that it appeared to be manmade. Most of our historians and theologists jumped on the story and said it was related to Lord Ram. Later on NASA denied having made any statement as to how the bridge got built etc. The enthusiasm died soon and nothing could be conculded since we were trying to prove that it was built millions of years ago.
Just analyse the situation. Suppose you build your house with stones, which are millions of years old - Does your house also becomes millions of years old?Answer is a clear ‘No’.
This was the mistake we were making while trying to claim the ancient bridge and the antiquity of Lord Ram to millions of years ago. Actually, the remains of the bridge, which Lord Ram had built are still available at a place called ‘ Chedu Karai’ in Tamil Nadu. ‘Chedu’ means ‘Setu’ ( bridge) and ‘Karai’ means ‘corner’. Interestingly, these remains of the bridge are available at the depth of about 10 feet below the water and these are about 1.5 kilometer inside the sea.
We are all aware that the rise of sea level, ever since the end of the last ice age (about 16000 BC), is a continuous phenomenon. There is scientific unanimity today that at the end of the last Ice age (which lasted about 1,20,000 Years) the sea level was about 120 meters below the present level. After that, earth entered the warming phase and Ice started melting. The level of sea started rising. The most interesting thing here is that the depth of sea between India and Sri Lanka is just 6-13 meters. It is not more than 13 meters deep at any place. Hence, at the end of last Ice age (16000 BC) India and Sri Lanka were connected by land.
The sea level started to rise gradually and again the scientific data suggests that it reached the level of 14 meters as late as 8000 Years ago. This clearly means that what we call as Palk Strait today came into existence only around 6000 BC. Water rose to a level where it was seen above the shallow land between India and Sri Lanka only around 6000 BC. The data is correct to the extent of +/- 1500 years.
It is all available at the website of National Geophysical Data Centre, USA.
Hence, if the narration in Ramayana is to be believed that Rama’s army crossed the sea to reach Lanka, it has to be an event of Post 6000 BC era.
Further, the precise level at which the `remains of the bridge’ built by Lord Rama can be measured and exact date of building the bridge can be ascertained because the rate of rise of sea level is known now very precisely.
All these findings have been published as a book titled “Dating the era of Lord Ram” (By Rupa & Co, Delhi). Hope you would the information interesting. I am sure you would have questions on the subject. I shall be glad to answer the same.
My e mail addresses are
Pushkar39@yahoo.com
Pushkarbhatnagar@hotmail.com
Regards
Pushkar Bhatnagar
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Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:01:17 -0000
From: “shekhar_sinha”
Subject: Re: Actual dates of the life time of Lord RamThe same Ramayan that gives the planetary descriptions (on which the calculation is based on) also tells that Lord Ram came in Treta yug. Matasya purana (47/240,243-246) gives more detail of various decensions and says Bhagwan Ram appeared at the end of 24th treta yug. Currently, 28th Kali yug is in effect according to our scriptures. Various purans give the period of yug cycles also. This gives the period of Lord Ram approx. 18 million years ago.The palentary positions mentioned in Ramayan would also have occured multiple times in history prior to the calculated date…Moreover the date calculated is heavily dependent on interpretation of sanskrit verses and softwares or method of calculation. Thats why every other persons gives his own date with day/month/year and time.
If we have to beleive the historicity of Lord Ram because of Ramayan then we should also beleive that he appeared in treta yug, because the same scripture says so.
http://www.salagram.net/Rama-dates.html
Oct. 12, 2003
A real life hero, not figment of a poet’s imagination
Saroj Bala
THE story of Shri Ram’s life was first narrated by Maharishi Valmiki in The Ramayana, written after he was crowned as the king of Ayodhya. Valmiki was a great astronomer because he made sequential astronomical references on important dates related to the life of Shri Ram indicating the location of planets vis-a-vis zodiac constellations and the other visible stars (nakshatras). A similar position of planets and nakshatras vis-a-vis zodiac constellations has not been repeated in thousands of years. By entering the precise details of the planetary configuration of the important events in the life of Shri Ram, as given in the Valmiki Ramayana, in the software named Planetarium corresponding exact dates of these events according to English calendar can be known.
Pushkar Bhatnagar, of the Indian Revenue Service, had acquired Planetarium from the USA. It is used to predict the solar/lunar eclipses and distance and location of other planets from the earth by the scientists and astronomers. He entered the relevant details about the planetary positions vis-a-vis zodiac constellations narrated by Valmiki and obtained convincing results, thus almost determining the important dates starting from the birth of Shri Ram to the date of his coming back to Ayodhya after 14 years of exile. Valmiki has recorded in Bal Kaand Sarga 19 and shloka 8 and 9 (1/18/8,9) that Shri Ram was born on the ninth tithi of Chaitra month when the position of different planets vis-a-vis zodiac constellations and nakshatras (visible stars) was as under :- 1 Sun in Aries ii) Saturn in Libra iii) Jupiter in Cancer iv) Venus in Pisces v) Mars in Capricorn vi) Lunar month of Chaitra vii) Ninth day after no moon viii) Lagna as Cancer (Cancer was rising in the east) ix) Moon on the Punarvasu (Gemini constellation & Pollux star) x) Day time (around noon)This data was fed into the Planetarium software. The results indicated that this was exactly the location of planets/stars vis-a-vis zodiac constellations on January10, noon time in the year 5114 BC. As per the Indian calendar, it was the ninth day of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra month and the time was around 12 to 1 noontime. This is exactly the time and date when Ram Navmi is celebrated all over India till date.Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya: This fact can be ascertained from several books written by Indian and foreign authors before and after the birth of Christ e.g. Valmiki Ramayana, Tulsi Ramayana, Kalidasa’s Raghuvansam, Bodh and Jain literature etc. These books have narrated in great detail the location, the rich architecture and the beauty of Ayodhya which had many palaces and temples built all over the vast kingdom. Ayodhya was located over the banks of Saryu River with Ganga and Panchal Pradesh on one side and Mithila on the other side. Normally 7,000 years is a very long period during which earthquakes, storms, floods and foreign invasions change the course of rivers, destroy towns and buildings and alter the territories. Therefore, the task of unearthing facts is monumental. The present Ayodhya is shrunken in size and the rivers have changed their course about 40 km north/south.Shri Ram went out of Ayodhya in his childhood (13th year as per Valmiki Ramayana with Rishi Vishwamitra who lived in Tapovan (Sidhhashram) and from there he went to Mithila, the kingdom of King Janaka. Here, he married Sita after breaking the Shiv dhanusha. Researchers have gone along the route adopted by Shri Ram as narrated in Valmiki Ramayana and found 23 places which have memorials existing even as on date to commemorate the events related to his life.These include Shringi Ashram, Ramghat, Tadka Van, Sidhhashram, Gautamashram, Janakpur (now in Nepal) and Sita Kund etc. Memorials are built for great human beings and not for fictitious characters.Date of exile of Shri Ram: In Valmiki Ramayana it is mentioned in Ayodhya Kand (2/4/18) that Dashratha wanted to make Shri Ram the king because Sun, Mars and Rahu had surrounded his nakshatra and normally under such planetary configuration the king dies/or becomes a victim of conspiracies. The zodiac sign of king Dashratha was Pisces and his nakshatra was Rewati. This planetary configuration was prevailing on the January 5, 5089 BC. It was on this day that Shri Ram had to leave Ayodhya for living in the forests for 14 years. He was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089) and there are several shlokas in the Valmiki Ramayana which indicate that Shri Ram was 25 years old when he left Ayodhya for 14 years of exile.Valmiki Ramayana refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with Khardushan in latter half of 13th year of Shri Ram’s living in forests. Valmiki has also mentioned that it was Amavasya that day and planet Mars was in the middle. When this data was entered, the computer software indicated that there was a solar eclipse on October 7, 5077 BC (Amavasya day) which could be seen from Panchvati. On that date, the planetary configuration was the same as has been described by Valmiki i.e. Mars was in the middle, on one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were Sun and Saturn. On the basis of planetary configurations described in various other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out to December 4, 5076 BC. Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on January 2, 5075 BC. That day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra month. Thus, Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya when he was 39 years old (5114-5075).Ram Avtar, who had done research on places visited by Shri Ram during 14 years of exile and sequentially moved to the places stated as visited by Shri Ram in the Valmiki Ramayana, started from Ayodhya and went right upto Rameshwaram. He found 195 places which still have the memorials connected to the events narrated in the Ramayana relating to the life of Shri Ram and Sita. These places include: Tamsa Tal (Mandah), Shringverpur (Singraur), Bhardwaj Ashram (situated near Allahabad), Atri Ashram, Markandeya Ashram (Markundi), Chitrakoot, Parnakuti (on banks of Godavari), Panchvati, Sita Sarovar, Ram Kund in Triambakeshwar near Nasik, Shabari Ashram, Kishkindha (village Annagorai), Dhanushkoti and Rameshwar temple.Recently, the Sri Lankan government had expressed a desire to develop Sita Vatika as a tourist spot. Sri Lankans believe that this was Ashok Vatika where Ravana had kept Sita as a prisoner (that was year 5076 BC). An American company engaged in exploring the oceans had put pictures on the Internet of a curved bridge, the ruins of which are lying submerged in Gulf of Mannar between Rameshwaram and Sri Lanka. The age of the stones used has been estimated at 17 million years, though the period of the construction of the bridge has still not been estimated.Indian history has recorded that Shri Ram belonged to the Surya Vansh and was the 64th ruler of this dynasty. The names and other relevant particulars of previous 63 kings are listed on in Ayodhya Ka Itihas written about 80 years back by Rai Bahadur Sita Ram and the ancestors of Shri Ram have been traced out as under: Shri Ram, S/o King Dashratha, S/o King Aja, S/o King Raghu, S/o King Dilip and so on ——-)From Kashmir to Kanyakumari and from Bengal to Gujarat, everywhere people believe in the reality of Shri Ram’s existence, particularly in the tribal areas of Himachal, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and the North-East. Most of the festivals celebrated in these tribal areas revolve around the events in the life of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna.During Ram Rajya, the evils of caste system based on birth were non-existent. Valmiki is stated to be a Shudra. Sita lived with him as his adopted daughter after she was banished from Ayodhya and Shri Ram’s children Luv and Kush grew in his ashram as his disciples. Valmiki was, perhaps, the first great astronomer and that his study of planetary configurations has stood the test of time. Even the latest computer software corroborated his astronomical calculations, proving that he did not commit any error. Shabari is stated to be belonging to Bheel tribe and the army of Shri Ram, which succeeded in defeating Ravana was also formed by various tribals from Central and South India. Facts, events and other relevant details relating to the life of Shri Ram are the common heritage of all the Indians.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20031012/spectrum/main6.htm
Nov. 4, 2007 Interview with Dr. S.R. Rao on Ramayana in archaeology http://tinyurl.com/242e9a
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3 Responses to “Ramayana era based on planetarium software”
jk Says:
December 25, 2007 at 10:07 am
namasthe,
1. software has searched for a specific alignment of stars and reported the first instance backwards in time.
2. now there is need to search backwards for the second such instance backwards in time.
Why hasn’t that been attempted? I have heard a lot on the maths involved etc.etc. which cannot be believed.
To me it appears simple algorithmically to segment the total alignment and report if mechanistic logic is limitation. But that cannot be dead end. There are are statistical probability based logic and also heuristic logic that can be used.
Leaving all limitations or constraint based logic aside for algorithm.
A
(1) Is is possible to observe Sun, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and Venus in Aries, Capricorn, Libra, Cancer and Pisces at any given longitude? Answer - Yes you have reported such an occurence in 5114 BCE,
(2) When is next occurence backward in time?
There could be a number of such occurences if 1 billion (age of earth) were the limit.
B
(1) When are the backward in time occurences when Lagna is Cancer and Jupiter & Moon shine together
There would be a far more number than in A.
C
Now set (A) and set (B) together - The numer of occurences will drastically reduce. But it will definitely more than just 1.
D
Within these ccurences when nakshatra is punarvasu
E
Chaitra masa
F
Shukla Paksha
G
Navami
To me EFG and D are of lesser degree parameters to build in constraints for them and make comuting tedious.
Reporting all the findings will be a monumental service to mankind. And funding any development for this would not be any problem.
Thanks
Satyakam Nayak Says:
January 16, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Hallow,
facts are hard to believe but excellent.
vcottalwar Says:
January 21, 2008 at 1:49 am
where you read that valmikijee wrote ramayan after lord rama was crowned king of Ayodha. valmiki wrote ramayan before birth of lord Rama.there was also one more ram before lord ram took birth. Donot washed away by immotions.
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